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    OLLI_S Community Moderator
    last edited by 19 Feb 2021, 07:09

    Microsoft Office is no longer shown as bundle (one application) in Business, they are separate apps shown (and also not all).

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    Same for my PC.

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      Tom VulnDetect Team Member @OLLI_S
      last edited by 19 Feb 2021, 07:44

      @olli_s It appears that your OfficeClickToRun.exe is gone, or perhaps some properties has changed.

      Is is usually located in this folder:
      C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\ClickToRun

      Can you try to look for this file and perhaps extract the details from it using your Toolbox?

      /Tom
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        OLLI_S Community Moderator @Tom
        last edited by 19 Feb 2021, 07:58

        I have the file OfficeClickToRun.exe located in that folder:

        File name and path:     C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\ClickToRun\OfficeClickToRun.exe
        Product Name:           Microsoft Office
        Internal Name:          OfficeClickToRun.exe
        Original Filename:      OfficeClickToRun.exe
        
        File Description:       Microsoft Office Click-to-Run (SxS)
        Company:                Microsoft Corporation
        Legal Copyright:        
        Legal Trademarks:       
        Comments:               
        
        File Version String:    16.0.13628.20346
        File Version:           16.0.13628.20346
        Product Version String: 16.0.13628.20346
        Product Version:        16.0.13628.20346
        

        But the strange thing is that SUMo tells me it is out of date:

        Microsoft Office (64 bits)	Microsoft	16.0.13628.20346	Update available (16.0.13628.20448)	C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\ClickToRun\OfficeClickToRun.exe
        
        
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          OLLI_S Community Moderator @OLLI_S
          last edited by OLLI_S 19 Feb 2021, 08:02

          If I double-click the EXE, then nothing happens (nothing is started).
          if I search in the Windows 10 start menu for office, then I find:

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          And this is an app from the Microsoft Store.
          So is the OfficeClickToRun.exe maybe EoL or wised?

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            Tom VulnDetect Team Member @OLLI_S
            last edited by 19 Feb 2021, 09:43

            @olli_s

            😊

            Great you stumbled upon this. And super funny that you wrote this about SUMo.

            It indicates that they have the same "misinterpretation" about Office, that we also had for a long time.

            We started restructuring and redoing the entire Office ruleset some weeks ago, in fact, we have taken all releases from 2016 until today and rewrote all of them.

            So now the results are vastly more accurate. Unfortunately, we had created a "deadend" which your two inspections fell into.

            This is now fixed, so they will appear as "Unknown" until we have added the correct rule. Normally, we would have shown it as "OK", but due to the way we have to handle Office, we are doing all rules by hand, and if you are too fast in updating, you will see this briefly. It will still make it to our internal "to do", so we will get too it quickly, and show the correct result upon the next scheduled inspection.

            /Tom
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              OLLI_S Community Moderator @Tom
              last edited by 19 Feb 2021, 21:02

              @tom Currently I have only the Microsoft 365 Apps (Current Channel)
              But why is ist called "Microsoft 365 Apps?
              And not "Microsoft 365" (without Apps)?

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                Tom VulnDetect Team Member @OLLI_S
                last edited by 19 Feb 2021, 21:25

                @olli_s I much prefer Microsoft Office, but clearly, Microsoft sees it differently:
                https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/deployoffice/name-change

                We were slow to adapt the new name, as nobody complained, and frankly, I think many people, like you, are more confused by the new name.

                However, Microsoft 365 Apps is the new official name, so we decided to go with it as well.

                Feel free to complain to Microsoft 😉

                /Tom
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                  OLLI_S Community Moderator @Tom
                  last edited by 19 Feb 2021, 22:43

                  @tom said in Microsoft Office - Products Shown Separate:

                  Feel free to complain to Microsoft

                  No, I am complaining here.

                  In the article it says:

                  Office 365 ProPlus is being renamed to Microsoft 365 Apps for enterprise.
                  ...
                  Office 365 ProPlus is the version of Office that comes with several enterprise, government, and education subscription plans

                  If you look at https://www.microsoft.com/ then you see the following versions:

                  For Home Users you have:

                  • Microsoft 365 Family
                  • Microsoft 365 Single

                  For Business Users you have:

                  • Microsoft 365 Business Basic
                  • Microsoft 365 Business Standard
                  • Microsoft 365 Business Premium
                  • Microsoft 365 Apps (just contains the apps)

                  Nearly all products have Microsoft 365 in their name.
                  So please rename the office package to Microsoft 365 too.

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                    GregAlexandre @Tom
                    last edited by 7 Mar 2021, 17:30

                    @tom : Hopefully, I read this thread!

                    I got the surprising "Unknown" status:

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                    Hope this helps.

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                      VulnDetect @GregAlexandre
                      last edited by 8 Mar 2021, 10:32

                      @gregalexandre Is this from your primary machine? (I checked your result in the backend).

                      On, what I presume is, your primary machine, it is displayed correctly.

                      And from all I can tell, that particular release of Office has been displayed correctly since 2nd March (it was released on 1st March).

                      If this is not from your primary machine, then please send me the username for the other machine in a chat message and I will review the result manually.

                      /Tom

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                        GregAlexandre @VulnDetect
                        last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 19:52

                        @vulndetect : Yes. Tom it is now fixed.
                        I sent you via PM my primary system.

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                          GregAlexandre @VulnDetect
                          last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 19:57

                          @vulndetect & @OLLI_S : Do I dream or when one Office product is unsecure the whole bundle is flaged unsecure?
                          If true this is very great!

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                            OLLI_S Community Moderator @GregAlexandre
                            last edited by 13 Mar 2021, 18:51

                            @gregalexandre said in Microsoft Office - Products Shown Separate:

                            Do I dream or when one Office product is unsecure the whole bundle is flaged unsecure?
                            If true this is very great!

                            I suggested that feature here: Inherit Vulnerability Status

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